Chuck Todd, Mark Murray and Carrie Dann at NBC:huck Todd, Mark Murray anNBC News: Several political pundits seem to suggest that the Cohen plea is his word against the President's.— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) August 22, 2018
Here's Andrea Griswold, federal prosecutor, detailing the evidence they had and would have used to prove the counts involving the President at trial: pic.twitter.com/MFLuFxQO6k
So, lordy, there are tapes. And emails. And phone records. Of course, we already know of one tape — of Cohen apparently talking about one of the payments to Trump — which CNN reported on last month.
In his interview with Fox News, Trump was asked about Cohen’s payments to Daniels and McDougal.
FOX NEWS: Did you direct him to make these payments?
TRUMP: He made the deal. He made the deals. By the way, he pled to two counts which aren't a crime which nobody understands. I watched a number of shows, sometimes you get some pretty good information by watching shows, those two counts aren't even a crime. They weren't campaign finance.
FOX NEWS: Did you know about the payments?
TRUMP: Later on I knew. Later on. But you have to understand, Ainsley, what he did - and they weren't taken out of campaign finance. That's a big thing. That's a much bigger thing. Did they come out of the campaign. They didn't come out of the campaign. They came from me.Let’s repeat those last two sentences: “They didn’t come out of the campaign. They came from me.” That is PRECISELY the allegation of illegal activity here — funds intended for a campaign are SUPPOSED to come from the campaign, not from another source.